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Submitted by Rasmus (not verified) on 19 Mar 2020 - 19:36 Permalink

No, no, no. None of this is even remotely true. God does not exist, he/she/it is a fairytale creature, and just because someone once said the Jesus is the son of God does not make it true. I'm really sorry, I genuinely want to respect people's faith, but when someone insists on perpetuating superstition, I kind of bristle. "The bible is true because it is the word of God" is probably the most easily falsified and refuted statement ever. The bible is what a small group of men decided that the word of God should be, because it best suited their theologies at the time. By alle means, by religious and be happy with it, but admit that it is your personal truth and not everybody else's.Peace and love, most sincerely meant. Cheers from Denmark.

Submitted by Wes (not verified) on 15 Sep 2019 - 20:28 Permalink

Not that it makes a lot of difference but Petti was not descended from the Peet Soap family. She was descended from John Peet who arrived in the "New World" in 1635 from Duffield, Derbyshire, England. Daisy Olive "Petti" Peet was born in Alden, Hardin County, Iowa on October 30, 1915

Submitted by Dean (not verified) on 06 Mar 2018 - 16:45 Permalink

The name of the hospital was “Rosewood” (either General or memorial — I can’t remember.) Anyway, as I told you earlier in the post, I had a friend of mine at Dorothy’s live in Houston Texas, it was an RN, I work at the hospital shortly before that happened. She was very familiar with that case. It didn’t deed of her anyway, as I told you earlier in a post, I had a friend of mine at Dorothy lived in Houston Texas, & was an RN who worked at the very hospital shortly before that happened. She was very familiar with that case. It did indeed occur. Like you, she was a skeptic. She said that she believed that people who had electric shock, frequently at those type of symptoms to wear the heart. And then start back. But she was knowledgeable enough to let me know that that PD Wagner just sue the hospital, and like you, she was a skeptic. She said that she believed that people who had electric shock, frequently at those type of symptoms to where the heart — then start back, but she was knowledgeable enough to let me know that that Petti Wagner did sue the hospital, and won. Also, as I have before, check at the courthouse in Houston Texas, Harris County specifically, and u can verify the lawsuit against the hospital

Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 06 Mar 2018 - 14:56 Permalink

Surely there is no risk in stating the name of the hospital as long as you stick to recorded facts. If the Houston courthouse has records that back you up, speak out. And who, after all this time, are you afraid of?

(If you believe Petti Wagner's version, won't God protect you? Or is divine intervention only for wealthy heiresses?)

Submitted by Dean (not verified) on 06 Mar 2018 - 16:45 Permalink

The name of the hospital was “Rosewood” (either General or memorial — I can’t remember.) Anyway, as I told you earlier in the post, I had a friend of mine at Dorothy’s live in Houston Texas, it was an RN, I work at the hospital shortly before that happened. She was very familiar with that case. It didn’t deed of her anyway, as I told you earlier in a post, I had a friend of mine at Dorothy lived in Houston Texas, & was an RN who worked at the very hospital shortly before that happened. She was very familiar with that case. It did indeed occur. Like you, she was a skeptic. She said that she believed that people who had electric shock, frequently at those type of symptoms to wear the heart. And then start back. But she was knowledgeable enough to let me know that that PD Wagner just sue the hospital, and like you, she was a skeptic. She said that she believed that people who had electric shock, frequently at those type of symptoms to where the heart — then start back, but she was knowledgeable enough to let me know that that Petti Wagner did sue the hospital, and won. Also, as I have before, check at the courthouse in Houston Texas, Harris County specifically, and u can verify the lawsuit against the hospital

Submitted by Dean (not verified) on 06 Mar 2018 - 14:31 Permalink

You may have to check the Houston courthouse. The hospital name was changed — I’m afraid to post the real name due to liability.

Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 06 Mar 2018 - 14:56 Permalink

Surely there is no risk in stating the name of the hospital as long as you stick to recorded facts. If the Houston courthouse has records that back you up, speak out. And who, after all this time, are you afraid of?

(If you believe Petti Wagner's version, won't God protect you? Or is divine intervention only for wealthy heiresses?)

Submitted by Dean (not verified) on 06 Mar 2018 - 16:45 Permalink

The name of the hospital was “Rosewood” (either General or memorial — I can’t remember.) Anyway, as I told you earlier in the post, I had a friend of mine at Dorothy’s live in Houston Texas, it was an RN, I work at the hospital shortly before that happened. She was very familiar with that case. It didn’t deed of her anyway, as I told you earlier in a post, I had a friend of mine at Dorothy lived in Houston Texas, & was an RN who worked at the very hospital shortly before that happened. She was very familiar with that case. It did indeed occur. Like you, she was a skeptic. She said that she believed that people who had electric shock, frequently at those type of symptoms to wear the heart. And then start back. But she was knowledgeable enough to let me know that that PD Wagner just sue the hospital, and like you, she was a skeptic. She said that she believed that people who had electric shock, frequently at those type of symptoms to where the heart — then start back, but she was knowledgeable enough to let me know that that Petti Wagner did sue the hospital, and won. Also, as I have before, check at the courthouse in Houston Texas, Harris County specifically, and u can verify the lawsuit against the hospital

Submitted by Graeme (not verified) on 21 Jan 2018 - 05:12 Permalink

I believe that this book is a mixture of fact and fiction. Petti Wagner was certainly a real person, and she had some businesses and some of the events may have happened, but some fundamental aspects of the story are clearly untrue:

1) There was no honorary degree from University of Florida. The wording is inconsistent with academic usage, and there is no honorary degree listed for Petti Wagner here: http://fora.aa.ufl.edu/docs//21//Honorary%20Degrees.pdf. (which is a complete list of all honorary degrees going back to 1909).
2) Artesia Hall scandal. This didn't happen until May 1971, and was not publicly known until June 1973, yet the book implies that "Dr Holmes" was already notorious at the time of the book's events in March 1971.
3) The death certificate in the book is a blatant forgery. It does not use a 1971 format, on form 25c. Instead it is on a form 27c, which is the form available when the book was published. This is easy to validate by searching the Internet for real Texas death certificates from 1971.
4) The letter from Department of Justice is undated and is missing a document reference, which must be included on all US government letters. If not an outright forgery, important information is redacted.
5) The plane crash was on the wrong date. The book says that "David" was killed in a plane crash at 1:00am on 19 March 1971. The actual crash was on 28 March 1971 at 7:09pm and this was the only matching crash in Texas during March. This can be validated at: http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/index.aspx Other details match the book, such as the cause of the crash, the location of the crash, and the involvement with "David" in a health club. However, the health club (President and First Lady Health Spa) was not a listed company, which contradicts the book's assertion that he was involved in a stock pump and dump scheme.

These issues are not minor and go to the heart of the story, especially with the plane crash, since the book said that Petti Wagner had to pray for "David" as his plane was crashing down.
The hospital did have a lawsuit by Petti Wagner, and was called Rosewood General Hospital. It has been closed since 2000.

Submitted by mimi (not verified) on 14 Feb 2017 - 10:24 Permalink

Google Daisy Olive Peet. You find information of her father's company, I did extensive search years ago, since I liked the book and wanted to know what company was she heiress of. It was Golgate-Palmolive. Wikipedia: In 1928, Palmolive-Peet bought the Colgate Company to create the Colgate-Palmolive-Peet Company. In 1953 "Peet" was dropped from the title, ...
It's a real story. they have a family information here well documented: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=…
I am actually interested what happened to the son, who was part of this what they did to her? I mean how can you get away with murder? Well, not my business.

Submitted by D. Rice (not verified) on 14 Jul 2016 - 21:45 Permalink

I went to church with this lady who this happened to in Houston. It is all true. The hospital was I believe on Westheimer and was called Rosewood. Don't know if it is still there. She loved the Lord very much. The church was called Lakewood.

Submitted by Patriia Kruger (not verified) on 06 Apr 2016 - 21:52 Permalink

A good read, a page turner. Understanding the way God works will always be a miracle.
I have read some of the comments left by individuals. I do pray for those who do not believe, that they to have an encounter with our Heavenly Father and realise people do not claim to have experienced Gods supernatural power at a whim.

Submitted by Clarissa moloney (not verified) on 29 Dec 2015 - 01:20 Permalink

Why can't it be true. Greed and jealousy , what you sow you reap, I believe it can come back on you what you do, my brotherinlaw and sister are stealing from my mother with dementia and no one wants to help , my jealous sister inlay has been colluding with them and is quite sick, brotherinlaw has a brain aneurysm , we have to forgive , the truth will come out, what a testimony , is it worth it to steal and lie, I don't think so cm

Submitted by Victoria ferris (not verified) on 01 Nov 2015 - 03:44 Permalink

I've read this book over and over again. Dr.Wagner's prior life and her accounts of her abduction and death at the hands of her perpetuators are all precisely true.
If you can't fully and completely believe you will never be the person God created you to be. You're missing an amazing life.

Submitted by Rasmus (not verified) on 19 Mar 2020 - 19:36 Permalink

No, no, no. None of this is even remotely true. God does not exist, he/she/it is a fairytale creature, and just because someone once said the Jesus is the son of God does not make it true. I'm really sorry, I genuinely want to respect people's faith, but when someone insists on perpetuating superstition, I kind of bristle. "The bible is true because it is the word of God" is probably the most easily falsified and refuted statement ever. The bible is what a small group of men decided that the word of God should be, because it best suited their theologies at the time. By alle means, by religious and be happy with it, but admit that it is your personal truth and not everybody else's.Peace and love, most sincerely meant. Cheers from Denmark.

Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 13 Jan 2014 - 10:35 Permalink

Even if I did believe in your "good" book (which, as you correctly deduce, I don't) it wouldn't make any difference to the credibility or otherwise of Petti Wagner's. It sounds as though you have the misfortune of not having any capacity for critical thinking.

Submitted by Christine (not verified) on 13 Jan 2014 - 07:37 Permalink

It sounds as if you have the misfortune of not having read, nor believed "the good book" either, eh? The eye witness reports of Christ and his story are the most documented events in human history. That speaks for itself. "Ye shall not enter the Kingdom of Heaven lest ye become as little children." That Kingdom is a place of sincerity, kindness, gentleness and trust. I pray that you find your way in to that sanctuary and that you realize that precisely no human can overrule the opinion God wrote into the case of Jesus Christ when his death penalty was overruled by his resurrection. May you become a living witness, blessed and full of faith and love.

Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 13 Jan 2014 - 10:35 Permalink

Even if I did believe in your "good" book (which, as you correctly deduce, I don't) it wouldn't make any difference to the credibility or otherwise of Petti Wagner's. It sounds as though you have the misfortune of not having any capacity for critical thinking.

Submitted by a different Jen (not verified) on 21 Sep 2013 - 08:12 Permalink

I have to admit that I find it extremely easy to side with Alfred and other skeptics (if there are the opinions of a number represented here--or only one under different names??) on Dr. Wagner's story. I definitely had the same feelings of doubt as I read the book and lots of questions that I would like to have answered. The note about the real inventor of the cold wave perm definitely makes my desire to have the other questions answered even stronger. My doubts started with her explanation of everything she did when she was in college at age 14. I guess they didn't have a lot of TV to watch, or internet, back then, and if you weren't dating, you might have a lot of time for starting a beauty parlor, experimenting with chemicals, and other research. I guess there are genius personalities out there that can accomplish things like that, but I know that my head was aching trying to comprehend how she did so much--and how little sleep she must have lived on!
However, I am also inclined to believe the testimonies here of those who say they have met Dr. Wagner in person and experienced an amazing presence of the Holy Spirit. I have begun to experience some of that myself--after decades of church services where the "presence of the Lord" was sought after and people attempted to kind of "invoke" it with wonderful worship songs, etc. All that to say that I've been a part of something that was supposedly the "presence of the Lord" and I have also experienced something that I have to say is different from anything else I have experienced. I have had my heart changed in ways that I never knew were possible during those times--bitterness gone, brokenness wiped away--now it's there, now it's not. There is something to be found that is called the "presence of the Lord" or the "presence of the Holy Spirit" that is very real and very life-changing. I believe in taxi-drivers that start crying as they are driving. I believe in a God who knocks people to the ground. I believe in a God who speaks in an audible voice to people (though I know He also speaks in ideas and pictures and words that come to the mind). I also believe in a God who heals. Dr. Petti's healings do seem to be a lot for one person, and extremely amazing--unbelievably so, but that does not automatically make them false. The phrase "stranger than fiction" has been around a long time, I believe. Why for the heiress and not for the concentration camp victims, or my dear friend who just died of cancer and left a loving wife and 5 adoring children without husband and father? I really wish I knew! I've definitely got a lot of questions for my God.
But I also feel Him drawing me to believe Him for the wild things that He can do that are beyond what I have yet experienced. I would prefer to be neither dupe nor eternal skeptic. I don't believe God asks us to lay our minds aside, but I do believe that He likes to blow them away whenever He can. (And that seems to have something to do with faith. Still learning, though).
The one thing that made me start considering that Dr Petti's story might be real, was her description of heaven. She talked about "rosy light". I, who am generally not a huge fan of pink, have also experienced that "rosy light" in a vision I had. (Now, perhaps, Alfred, you would be ready to lock me up with Dr. Petti's tormentors). But all I can say is that I DID see it. I have been learning to pay more attention to pictures that come to mind--esp. when I am talking with God. It is not often that color is very apparent in pictures that come into my mind. There have been other occasions, and then the colors were very vivid. And this one was one of those cases. The air had a rosy hue to it. It was kind of strange because it didn't have a source like that of a sunset or anything. It seemed to be the color of the air.
In light of that vision, my curiosity was very piqued when I ran across a video talking about the color "drunk tank pink" that has supposedly been used in prisons to calm down prisoners. The video was promoting a book by the same title that apparently did some sort of psychological study on the color. I have yet to read more on the subject. But I thought it interesting to find that information in light of the color that I had seen in my vision.
There was also a song written by a Christian Artist called Annie Herring that I learned from a children's album she made. There is a line that always stood out to me because it seems to specific and yet so strangely not having really anything to do with Scripture: "There's a color I love most, angel's wings of pure crystal rose".
So first Annie's song, then my vision, then Drunk Tank pink, and now Dr. Petti's "rosy hue". I'm at the very least very curious. I'm also wondering if anyone else out there has had interesting connections with the color pink. (I reiterate that I am NOT a "pink person" at all!)
As for how Jesus appeared to Dr. Petti, I have no problem believing that He appears in varied forms to different people depending on what they are familiar with, what they "know" of Him, what they think of Him, what He is wanting to communicate to them, and likely what they are able to stand. When Stephen was stoned and saw a vision of "Jesus at the right hand of the Father", it seems that he saw someone very recognizable to him, while the figure with eyes of fire, white hair, feet of burnished bronze and a sword coming out of His mouth had to clarify to John on Patmos that He was "the First and the Last, the Living One, though He was dead".
Final verdict on Dr. Petti? I guess I have no reason to doubt that she ministers with a mighty power of the Holy Spirit, from the personal, first hand testimonies given here. And if that is real, I'm not sure how her story could NOT be--unbelievable as it sounds. But I still have the nagging questions about the details that people are having so much difficulty tracking down.

Submitted by lorraine (not verified) on 15 Jul 2013 - 09:14 Permalink

I really feel sorry for doubters like you! It is sceptics like you that despite documented proof that need a total renewing of the mind.

Submitted by Janelle (not verified) on 27 Feb 2013 - 23:42 Permalink

I was just going through my very old files of keepsakes from years gone by. I came upon 3 letters from Petti and a thank you poem my husband wrote her. After she stayed in our home for a couple days, we were invited along with our small children to her home to stay while we visited Disney World. She was not able to be there, but trusted us to stay and drive her car while we visited Disney World. Her secretary handled all our needs. I still have the secretaries' name and phone number, however, it is almost 30 yrs. old . Petti was a wonderful person appearing to be generous and genuine. I have no reason to disbelieve her, however, there were times I did question the validity of her story, or at least parts of it. For instance, I only had to "google" the inventor of the cold wave perm and this is what it said in Wikipedia, "In 1938, Arnold F. Willatt invented the cold wave, the precursor to the modern perm. It used no machines and no heat." It really doesn't matter if the story were true or not. However, I do think the book would make an excellent movie. She talked often of doing it. The story was intriguing and extremely entertaining. Whether true or not, I do know that my God is well capable of doing all the miracles she portrayed in her book. I believe Petti is now with the Lord and they have worked out all the details by now, I'm sure.

Submitted by Rebecca Wilhite (not verified) on 21 Dec 2012 - 04:43 Permalink

I too talked to this wonderful lady. When my husband passed away in 1985 at a very young age. I called the phone number that was in her book. I left a message never thinking she would ever call me back. Early the next morning the phone ring at my mothers house where I was staying at the time and it was her. She talked to me answered my questions and prayed for me. I think they should make a movie of what she went through. I am a believer and I know God answers prayer and the wonderful things. In 1972 I had cancer and was only given six to eight months to live the Lord healed me . I was 28 at the time I am now 69 I know what God can do.

Submitted by Hope (not verified) on 20 Apr 2012 - 04:57 Permalink

I have not read the book, however all the comments are interesting, very amusing (thanks Reg) and insightful, thank you all for your great comments, may love, joy and peace follow you all the days of your life. God is good and His middle name is Impossible, as in nothing is impossible with Father God Almighty. Be blessed.
Submitted by Joyce B. (not verified) on 14 Mar 2012 - 04:50 Permalink

I am almost done with this book and it is absolutely amazing what she went through! I got on here to see what others say. And knew there would be cynical people. All I know is that He says ALL things are possible with God. He can move any mountain. Sure, I have wondered before why some can audibly hear His voice and others (like me), haven't. But isn't it really about faith? I like how the author spoke of blind faith! Who knows what He may have in store for me..or for anyone who posted on here! He works in mysterious ways and He does not think like we do either! I cannot imagine why someone would 'make-up' a story like this. I think these things happen to build others faith. We will always have scoffers. Satan doesn't want us to believe...and he is the deceiver. I will put my trust in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Yes, yes, and YES!! Praise God!
Submitted by psuedonym (not verified) on 03 Mar 2012 - 02:30 Permalink

Wait are you saying that you dont have to substantiate your belief with argument or evidence because accusing us of condescension or raging disbelief is enough to prove that we are wrong? There may be responses to the book of surprise that anyone would fall for such and obvious lie but there are also many reasoned response that point out the lack of evidence and logical holes. I'm not your enemy, but if you attack my philosophy with accusations of heresy or demon possession then I will point out the irrationality of your philosophy
Submitted by Lynn (not verified) on 02 Mar 2012 - 23:43 Permalink

The book is awesome! Every time I read it I am blessed spiritually, and physically. God actually bring things to fruition that I've be praying about. Talking about a faith booster! This book helped me grow spiritually. I got my first book from my deceased grandmothers things. I read it to my whole family on the way back from IL after the funeral. We were all blessed! I've bought many copies and given them to people, most all received the same astonishing faith boost as I did. I have a kindle now, you know I bought it again so I would l always have a copy. I did wonder where Petti G. Wagner was now, I just read from one of the bloggers that she is deceased. God bless her soul and every member of her family, for the licking she took and for writing this book, which helped boost our faith, in our Father. I am not shocked that the enemy try to take away the power of this book through condescending remarks and throwing darts of raging disbelief, that's what the enemy does when God shines. That is what the enemy does to the Bible! But, To God Be The Glory! (We do not! argue the Bible or have to defend God, his Son or the Holy Spirit,) we don't have to, the battle is not ours.
Submitted by psuedonym (not verified) on 03 Mar 2012 - 02:30 Permalink

Wait are you saying that you dont have to substantiate your belief with argument or evidence because accusing us of condescension or raging disbelief is enough to prove that we are wrong? There may be responses to the book of surprise that anyone would fall for such and obvious lie but there are also many reasoned response that point out the lack of evidence and logical holes. I'm not your enemy, but if you attack my philosophy with accusations of heresy or demon possession then I will point out the irrationality of your philosophy
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 19 Nov 2011 - 18:17 Permalink

 Isn't it amazing how no-one who claims to have evidence for this story can ever produce it? Not even stuff that should be in the public domain such as newspaper or court reports. And I don't see how your supposedly being in the public eye stops you from telling us "more". It's not as though you are liable to incriminate yourself, is it?

Essentially, you are asking us to believe one unlikely tale unsupported by evidence because you can tell us another. Strangely, I remain to be convinced. 

 

 

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 18 Nov 2011 - 00:08 Permalink

Well, for those of you who are so negative about this book, let me enlighten you...I had an encounter with Petti almost 20 years ago that changed my life, I met her at Dallas Airport, we were both looking for a cab, we ended up in the same cab togehter, we both had just flown into town and we were on our way to the same hotel, we shared the cab....she handed me her book, the arab cab driver accepted Jeasus driving on the Freeway barly speaking english, the Holy spirit was so stron in the cab he started weeping....yes I was scarred...he was the driver!...I still didnt know exactly who she was...we made a plan to meet for lunch...I went to my room opened the book to see who she was....met her for lunch and she showed me the scars on her fingers where they tried to cut off her ring that Tiffany himself had sautered onto her finger....her mouth was filled with gold where the murders kicked in her teeth...I saw all of it, I spent several hours with her, met her again that night with her assistant and a good friend of mine, we talked for many hours into the night, she prayed with me and told me several miracles that would happen in my life by the time I was in my 40's....I am now in my 40's....the miracles are happening...because i am in the public eye I am not able to tell you more at this time...but believe it or not I had an experience that was real, it changed my life and I will tell you her story is REAL!
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 19 Nov 2011 - 18:17 Permalink

 Isn't it amazing how no-one who claims to have evidence for this story can ever produce it? Not even stuff that should be in the public domain such as newspaper or court reports. And I don't see how your supposedly being in the public eye stops you from telling us "more". It's not as though you are liable to incriminate yourself, is it?

Essentially, you are asking us to believe one unlikely tale unsupported by evidence because you can tell us another. Strangely, I remain to be convinced. 

 

 

Submitted by Lakisha McGill (not verified) on 01 Nov 2011 - 17:19 Permalink

Just as the bible contains words of life after the ordeal people still dont believe so be it then ole doubting thomas. Some folk god can't satisfy les they see with thier eyes the piercing of where the nails have gone thru. I actually am one who use to be that way......I praise God for Dr. Petti Wagner for being bold as a lion yet gentle as a dove and let us in ..some wont cry out as Jesus said the rocks would so amen and know that if you havent touched all ...well youve who was suppose to be . thank you!!!
Submitted by chaim (not verified) on 28 Aug 2011 - 22:13 Permalink

Murdered Heiress is not presented as avowed ficition, but fact. I read the book and there is plenty of slander to go around if anybody recognises themself in Ms. Wagner's tale. Too bad that even the threat of a suit never came up; we might have gotten the true version then.
Submitted by Connie (not verified) on 05 Jul 2011 - 06:44 Permalink

I believe that we are not to judge, thank God He is the judge. And the one's of you that are making fun of God will one day stand before Him and you will believe and wished you had not made fun of Him. Many of us have heard the voice of God and been entertained by angels. Thank God for those moments. How many times have we been protected and spared. For those of you who have not, how can you even start to make a comment about it! When you have been there then you will believe and understand. To my God be the Glory and Praise for those precious moments and so many times He has protected and helped me and my loved ones. One day you will call on Him for His help.
Submitted by lion heart (not verified) on 26 Jun 2011 - 02:57 Permalink

when we look at sad movies we cry we look at movies with jenoside we get angry because something touches our humanity even some things are real and some make believe but unless were told we still cry at sad movies
Submitted by pseudonym (not verified) on 10 Jun 2011 - 06:38 Permalink

So you can prove that she died, that there is a hospital that was condemed in houston texas and that she existed because met some other people who definetly existed. Fine but the book makes incredible, incredulous claims so you need incredible, extraordinary evidence, you need a mountain of news reports, police reports, court documents, or alternatively you can acknowledge that it's a matter of faith and the only reason to beleive her story is if you want to. But more importantly Dr Pat Robinson? Doctor? Who is that? The host of the 700 club is certainly not a doctor in any secular capacity.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 10 Jun 2011 - 00:15 Permalink

There is legitimate evidence... Don't just read the summary! Read the book! There's a legitimate copy of her death certificate in the actual book, and a picture of that old condemned hospital in Houston, Tx. . And maybe for a tiny bit of conceptualistic quality, there are photos of some of her rich comrades along with herself which includes the former President George Bush Sr. and some others in the book also. Plus she has shared her testimony at least twice on the 700 Club with Dr. Pat Robertson! Do your homework before you make all these "snap" judgements people.
Submitted by pseudonym (not verified) on 10 Jun 2011 - 06:38 Permalink

So you can prove that she died, that there is a hospital that was condemed in houston texas and that she existed because met some other people who definetly existed. Fine but the book makes incredible, incredulous claims so you need incredible, extraordinary evidence, you need a mountain of news reports, police reports, court documents, or alternatively you can acknowledge that it's a matter of faith and the only reason to beleive her story is if you want to. But more importantly Dr Pat Robinson? Doctor? Who is that? The host of the 700 club is certainly not a doctor in any secular capacity.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 07 Apr 2011 - 10:46 Permalink

"Who am I to judge another person?" - that's amazingly disingenuous, isn't it? Do you give money to everyone who asks for it? Do you believe every tall tale you are told? Would you believe a Muslim who claims that his religion is the only true one?

Faith is fine, until it's someone else's that's different from yours.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 07 Apr 2011 - 03:13 Permalink

I was told about the book last night, and after reading all your comments I am intrigued to read it, sounds like a few of you might want to pass your copy on?:-) All I can say is "who am I to judge another person?" We will all find out in the end in any case, but I would say on the question of faith, that it is a bit like the 'global warming debate' - the cost of not doing anything is too great - it will cost the earth! The cost of not thoroughly examining the bible is too great also - it will cost you your life! So don't you think it would be worth your life to at least examine the case documentation before your own jury is out? ie from Genesis to Revelation? Even God grants us free will...enjoy your free will!
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 07 Apr 2011 - 10:46 Permalink

"Who am I to judge another person?" - that's amazingly disingenuous, isn't it? Do you give money to everyone who asks for it? Do you believe every tall tale you are told? Would you believe a Muslim who claims that his religion is the only true one?

Faith is fine, until it's someone else's that's different from yours.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 03 Feb 2011 - 04:54 Permalink

My grandmother gave me a copy of Dr. Wagner's book about 20 years ago. I couldn't put the book down. It was quite a testimony! Believe it or not, God is able. He moves in so many different ways. Many years ago, I was driving home from downtown Chicago heading to the south side. It was cold and the roads were slick and icy. As I entered the Dan Ryan expressway, My car spun around and was facing 3 lanes of oncoming cars. I was in shock. All of a sudden I heard a voice (I was alone in the car.) say, "Pull the car over! The engine is still running!" I did and just missed getting hit head on. I know it was the voice of the Lord. I have had other experience like this one but have not seen the Lord. I do believe Dr. Wagner's story be ause we cannot put God in a box. He chooses how, when, who, and where. We are only clay.
Submitted by Guy Fulton on 17 Oct 2010 - 11:05 Permalink

How do you know your heaven guided intuition is the real thing? Some Christians don't think that the things Muhammad saw were real but they agree that the things that they see are. Does that make sense? Other Christians take things with a grain of salt and think of Simon Magus. Remember the words of Hamlet after having seen the apparition of his father: The spirit that I have seen May be the devil: and the devil hath power To assume a pleasing shape; yea, and perhaps Out of my weakness and my melancholy, As he is very potent with such spirits, Abuses me to damn me: I'll have grounds More relative than this. The play 's the thing Wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king.
Submitted by Lord Kefka (not verified) on 17 Oct 2010 - 10:45 Permalink

Really? There is no way anyone can make someting up like this? Have you ever read fiction? People of your sort scare me. Your the type who believe the contents of such things as "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" When someone shouts "She's a witch!!" you don't even wait to see if she floats or sinks, its directly on to the pire with her!
Submitted by Lord Kefka (not verified) on 17 Oct 2010 - 10:30 Permalink

I've gone off Yahsua. Also when I hear the words "Mark of the Beast" I think of my Uncle Mark, a rabid Christian who thinks I am going straight to hell, no questions asked. Why? Cause I believe that homosexuals were not going to hell. As it happens I decided that it would be fittingly ironic to pray to Reginald Edward one night. I asked him to heal my ... well I don't know what it was, I've obviously been very sick lately, blood coming out of the seams everywhere constantly, you wouldn't want me to describe it. Been too afraid to visit the doctor. Anyway, I prayed to old Reginald and the next day I woke up quite healed. No sickness, no blood, went to the doctor and he said I was completely healthy. I am doing roof work and all kinds of heavy lifting now, and no blood anywhere. Furthermore my tomatoes did considerably better than the neighbors. I am not sure what Reginald Edward looks like but I am painting an icon to put in my prayer room. It will be Reginald Edward fighting off the Harlequin Love Ponies of Quilleby Meadows. My own interpretation of the features of his true and perfect holiness is 1st Marquess Wellesley, about 1825, but I would welcome knowledge of anyone who has a better idea of the blinding face of our redemption. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Richard_Colley_Wellesley,_Marquess_Wellesley_by_John_Philip_Davis_('Pope'_Davis).jpg
Submitted by Donna (not verified) on 13 Oct 2010 - 05:05 Permalink

I just finished reading this book and I think it was an awesome testimony. I know to some of you it sounds unbelievable, but so did the parting of the red sea, a burning bush, a virgin birth. God always works in ways that seem unbelievable to our limited human minds. But He says "My ways are not your ways, and My thoughts are not your thoughts. My ways are higher than your ways, and my thoughts are higher than your thoughts." Jesus came and walked among the people of those days, performing many miracles, and still the people did not believe what they saw. so it doesn't surprise me that many of you don't believe Dr. Wagner's story. Those of you who don't believe may want to stop and pray, and ask God to truly show you if this is truth or not. "Seek and you shall find, Ask and it shall be answered" . If you ask honestly, with an open heart, He will show you the truth. As the disciples prayed, "Lord, help us with our unbelief", so should we.
Submitted by Guy Fulton on 17 Oct 2010 - 11:05 Permalink

How do you know your heaven guided intuition is the real thing? Some Christians don't think that the things Muhammad saw were real but they agree that the things that they see are. Does that make sense? Other Christians take things with a grain of salt and think of Simon Magus. Remember the words of Hamlet after having seen the apparition of his father: The spirit that I have seen May be the devil: and the devil hath power To assume a pleasing shape; yea, and perhaps Out of my weakness and my melancholy, As he is very potent with such spirits, Abuses me to damn me: I'll have grounds More relative than this. The play 's the thing Wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king.