the eath is round or we would fall off but i have not read any proof yet that the moon and the sun dont rotate the earth we could just see one side of the moon because it continues to face the earth as it spins around us. for any australians does the water in the toilet really spin clockewise cause it spins counterclockwise in america i m going to do research on the time it takes to fly east in comparison to the time in takes to fly west
Submitted by pseudonym (not verified) on 31 Dec 2010 - 02:56Permalink
I didn't understand your first point but I am Australian so I will reply to the question. It spins in different directions depending on the shape of the toilet bowl, the Coriolis effect is too small to influence something at that scale, you need to look at cyclones or whirlpools to see it in action.
You should be researching gravity if you want to understand the shape or movement of the earth.
i dont like this guy a man who invented the nuclear bomb along with his mates now look at the world today after 1000s of tests they say its global warming more like ripping holes... in the ozone layer... oops sorry we got carried away wheres all the fallout gone ...ask the airline companys like Qantas even their planes are feeling the effects ....soon all planes maybe will drop like flys thats the reason they banned atmospheric testing
the earth spins you have day and night as for the stone always landing in the same spot go sit in a train plane car tank and throw it up.......the earth speed is 1000 mls per hr if GODS hand suddenly stopped it you can bet that stone will fall many mls away travlling at mach1 along with yourself and the seas and any thing no bolted down to bedrock cheers
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 23 Nov 2010 - 12:40Permalink
Earth was flat said the greek poet homer and believe that earth also a circular disk surrounded by an ocean.Thales Miletus also believed that the earth was flat disk floating in water
Submitted by Jen (not verified) on 22 Oct 2010 - 22:27Permalink
This is the funniest page I have EVER stumbled across! Yes, the earth is flat....IF you live in Narnia. For proof that the earth is a globe and rotates: ask an astronaut, for the love of the moon!!! I'm pretty sure they know, having been outside of the earth's atmosphere. Oh, and check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whirlpool_Galaxy
Isn't it just beautiful? Also, I think the authour was yanking a few chains and having a laugh. That, or he had a chemical imbalance preventing logical thought-processes. Oh, and I believe some of the people who commented on here misunderstood some of the other commenters' quite thinly veiled sarcasm, and some need to go back to school for grammar/punctuation/spelling/definition lessons. But, they contributed to the general hilarity, so I will forgive them graciously and bid you adieu.
Good NIGHT!
Submitted by kjvman on 20 Oct 2010 - 05:32Permalink
Why should I answer anyone's questions? I'm not here providing a public service.
When I don't know the answer to something, I do this thing called research. These days it's easier than it used to be, but I don't expect random strangers on the internet to give me all the answers, for nothing, without even the pretence of gratitude.
Unlike you, you [unnecessary insult written in heat of the moment removed].
Ta ta!
Submitted by Lord Kefka (not verified) on 18 Oct 2010 - 22:45Permalink
First of all you need to scrap your idea of gravity. Flat earth theories and Newtonian gravity don't mix because gravity would wad the flat earth into a ball.
Also you don't need Satellites. Instead all you need to do to broadcast signals over the earth is to build a network of towers on mountains, the only thing which will stop them sending signals to any point on earth is other mountains. See the picture at the top of the article.
Submitted by Guy Fulton on 18 Oct 2010 - 22:25Permalink
If I remember my college cosmology correctly all the galaxies are moving away from each-other too. Space itself is expanding. Also I believe that many astronomers think that there is no center of space, rather all points are the center, and if you were to travel in one direction you would end up in the place you had started.
Ahem. NASA says:
"Imagine a loaf of raisin bread as it is baking. The raisins in the bread spread away from one another as the loaf rises and expands during the baking. Pick any raisin and pretend you are standing on it (you're very small now!) and measuring the rate at which the other raisins are moving away from you. You will find that, no matter which raisin you choose, all other raisins appear to be moving away from you, with the furthest raisins receding the fastest."
http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/970611e.html
Submitted by Guy Fulton on 18 Oct 2010 - 22:12Permalink
Look, if you have ever been in a plane you will have gone a good deal faster than 200 miles per hour. Look out side the window at Mount St. Helens and you will see it moving past very slowly. Perhaps you didn't actually observe very well on your motorcycle. Alpha Centauri, the closest star to us, is 25.8 trillion miles away, so perhaps the slowness of movement that far away can be grasped when you think about that scale... why am I wasting my time explaining this?
Next people will start saying that coffee is hot because it is full of little demons who get angry when you boil them. Which is true, but quite unprovable.
Submitted by skip (not verified) on 18 Oct 2010 - 20:55Permalink
Thats your answer?
I'm lazy?
I think thats just an excuse.
I ask a question and your answer is I'm to lazy to look up the things that science can easily prove.
Sorry I paraphrased to at least make your statement make sense.
Ok, thanks for your insight.
bye..
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 18 Oct 2010 - 22:49Permalink
Why should I answer anyone's questions? I'm not here providing a public service.
When I don't know the answer to something, I do this thing called research. These days it's easier than it used to be, but I don't expect random strangers on the internet to give me all the answers, for nothing, without even the pretence of gratitude.
Unlike you, you [unnecessary insult written in heat of the moment removed].
Ta ta!
Submitted by skip (not verified) on 18 Oct 2010 - 20:37Permalink
No, I don't think they are the same Alfred.
One is the 3D effect, the trees and hills in the background.
The other is a legit question to be answered.
You say the movement of the stars is how we 'know' our Earth rotates.
I asked why the stars didn't appear as a blur to us from our point of view,
IF the Earth is spinning at 1036MPH.
Having only went close to two hundred MPH on my motorcycle,
I can tell you EVERYTHINGS a blur, at that speed,
so WHY at 5 times that speed is everything so clear and in focus?
Are all the stars and distant galaxys moving at EXACTLY the same rate and direction we are?
that's the only way they'd stay 'right".
Well, either that or the Earth IS stationary.
They'd be "right" then too.
Comment?
Submitted by Guy Fulton on 18 Oct 2010 - 22:12Permalink
Look, if you have ever been in a plane you will have gone a good deal faster than 200 miles per hour. Look out side the window at Mount St. Helens and you will see it moving past very slowly. Perhaps you didn't actually observe very well on your motorcycle. Alpha Centauri, the closest star to us, is 25.8 trillion miles away, so perhaps the slowness of movement that far away can be grasped when you think about that scale... why am I wasting my time explaining this?
Next people will start saying that coffee is hot because it is full of little demons who get angry when you boil them. Which is true, but quite unprovable.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 18 Oct 2010 - 19:58Permalink
Why do astronomers say that EVERYTHING is moving away from us?
They say the red shift in the light coming from the various objects in space,
other galaxys, other stars in our galaxy, etc.
is ALL moving away from us.
How is this possible unless we are at the center.
Why don't planes use more fuel following the rotation (East)
than the ones going West, which should use less because their destination is coming up under them at 1036 MPH.
Just curious.
Submitted by Guy Fulton on 18 Oct 2010 - 22:25Permalink
If I remember my college cosmology correctly all the galaxies are moving away from each-other too. Space itself is expanding. Also I believe that many astronomers think that there is no center of space, rather all points are the center, and if you were to travel in one direction you would end up in the place you had started.
Ahem. NASA says:
"Imagine a loaf of raisin bread as it is baking. The raisins in the bread spread away from one another as the loaf rises and expands during the baking. Pick any raisin and pretend you are standing on it (you're very small now!) and measuring the rate at which the other raisins are moving away from you. You will find that, no matter which raisin you choose, all other raisins appear to be moving away from you, with the furthest raisins receding the fastest."
http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/970611e.html
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 18 Oct 2010 - 19:58Permalink
Simple observation will show that the stars do move in the sky, albeit slowly. This is one of the reasons we know that our planet is moving. They don't move quickly because they are a very, very long way away. When you are driving alongside distant hills, don't they seem to move much more slowly than nearby trees? That is the same phenomenon on a smaller scale.
Submitted by skip (not verified) on 18 Oct 2010 - 20:37Permalink
No, I don't think they are the same Alfred.
One is the 3D effect, the trees and hills in the background.
The other is a legit question to be answered.
You say the movement of the stars is how we 'know' our Earth rotates.
I asked why the stars didn't appear as a blur to us from our point of view,
IF the Earth is spinning at 1036MPH.
Having only went close to two hundred MPH on my motorcycle,
I can tell you EVERYTHINGS a blur, at that speed,
so WHY at 5 times that speed is everything so clear and in focus?
Are all the stars and distant galaxys moving at EXACTLY the same rate and direction we are?
that's the only way they'd stay 'right".
Well, either that or the Earth IS stationary.
They'd be "right" then too.
Comment?
Submitted by Guy Fulton on 18 Oct 2010 - 22:12Permalink
Look, if you have ever been in a plane you will have gone a good deal faster than 200 miles per hour. Look out side the window at Mount St. Helens and you will see it moving past very slowly. Perhaps you didn't actually observe very well on your motorcycle. Alpha Centauri, the closest star to us, is 25.8 trillion miles away, so perhaps the slowness of movement that far away can be grasped when you think about that scale... why am I wasting my time explaining this?
Next people will start saying that coffee is hot because it is full of little demons who get angry when you boil them. Which is true, but quite unprovable.
Submitted by skip (not verified) on 18 Oct 2010 - 19:26Permalink
Hi.
Sorry I'm not a flat Earth believer,
but I'm starting to think the Earth is stationary.
I went to school in the West, and have a Christian outlook on life.
Without quoting the Bible and the various references already made,
just observing the world around us, makes me question the validity of the "scientific facts" as we've been taught.
for instance, IF the Earth IS rotating around the Sun as taught,
then we're traveling in space at a pretty alarming rate,
not only the spin of the Earth on its' axis, but the trip around the Sun, in conjunction with the spin speed.
Then you add the speed of the Sun and it's little journey through the Milky Way,
and we're moving pretty good.
We'll stop there, no use in going overboard by adding the "supposed" speed of the Milky Way...
Now, if we're spinning and moving so fast,
how come the stars aren't just a blur?
Why do they appear "fixed" in the night sky?
just curious.....
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 18 Oct 2010 - 19:32Permalink
Simple observation will show that the stars do move in the sky, albeit slowly. This is one of the reasons we know that our planet is moving. They don't move quickly because they are a very, very long way away. When you are driving alongside distant hills, don't they seem to move much more slowly than nearby trees? That is the same phenomenon on a smaller scale.
Submitted by skip (not verified) on 18 Oct 2010 - 20:37Permalink
No, I don't think they are the same Alfred.
One is the 3D effect, the trees and hills in the background.
The other is a legit question to be answered.
You say the movement of the stars is how we 'know' our Earth rotates.
I asked why the stars didn't appear as a blur to us from our point of view,
IF the Earth is spinning at 1036MPH.
Having only went close to two hundred MPH on my motorcycle,
I can tell you EVERYTHINGS a blur, at that speed,
so WHY at 5 times that speed is everything so clear and in focus?
Are all the stars and distant galaxys moving at EXACTLY the same rate and direction we are?
that's the only way they'd stay 'right".
Well, either that or the Earth IS stationary.
They'd be "right" then too.
Comment?
Submitted by Guy Fulton on 18 Oct 2010 - 22:12Permalink
Look, if you have ever been in a plane you will have gone a good deal faster than 200 miles per hour. Look out side the window at Mount St. Helens and you will see it moving past very slowly. Perhaps you didn't actually observe very well on your motorcycle. Alpha Centauri, the closest star to us, is 25.8 trillion miles away, so perhaps the slowness of movement that far away can be grasped when you think about that scale... why am I wasting my time explaining this?
Next people will start saying that coffee is hot because it is full of little demons who get angry when you boil them. Which is true, but quite unprovable.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 18 Oct 2010 - 11:54Permalink
I am also in favor of flat earth. But, the only thing which disturbs my thinking is the
rotation of geosynchronous satellites. Can anybody prove that why these satellites do rotate (as they say to sync up with earth's so called rotation!), if our earth is flat?
I really would like to hear the answer for this as this is the only thing which prevents me from setting my mind to flat earth concept.
Plz can anybody give me answer. Plz, only flat earth supporters do reply to this, I don't want this question to be ignored in flow of other comments or topics, as this is much important for my understanding.
Sorry if I am being selfish or rude. Plz do answer...
Submitted by Lord Kefka (not verified) on 18 Oct 2010 - 22:45Permalink
First of all you need to scrap your idea of gravity. Flat earth theories and Newtonian gravity don't mix because gravity would wad the flat earth into a ball.
Also you don't need Satellites. Instead all you need to do to broadcast signals over the earth is to build a network of towers on mountains, the only thing which will stop them sending signals to any point on earth is other mountains. See the picture at the top of the article.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 04 Oct 2010 - 16:06Permalink
To be honest this is probably one of the most interesting blogs ive ever seen, even if its not a blog or discussion or argument or whatever.
Point is if you have been though highschool and earth science you would understand that the earth revolves around the sun becuase the sun has a much larger mass and gravitational pull on the earth giving it an eliptical orbit.
This applies to all the planets caught in the sun's gravitational pull.
Regardless i don't have time to get into all of it.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 29 Sep 2010 - 10:44Permalink
I am very curious about how anti-evolutionists explain breeding. It is something observable and I also suspect that most fundamentalists have some idea fathers pass on their traits to their children. I would like to find the official fundamentalist explanation for these things.
Also it is polite to call us Apes, monkeys is offensive.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:01Permalink
Passing on traits is far from going from a fish to a land animal or birds. How does a gill which breaths through water go to a lung which breaths air? Does half a lung work? Or half a central nervous SYSTEM.
Define system.
Ever ask yourself why they call it the missing link?
It is MISSING. Your great proof the NEBRASKA MAN. A dawm pigs tooth. Hahaha. Missing link. Still missing. Always has. Always will be.
DNA keeps a horse a horse. Only with man and intelligence can we mix DNA from different species. Try breeding a cat with a dog. Won't work. Takes an intelligence to manipulate the system.
T
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:07Permalink
Boy, aren't you clever. Cleverer for sure than all those people who study evolutionary biology for years, for example, who haven't spent any time at all considering such questions as these.
Read up on the subject with humility and an open mind. You might actually learn something.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:46Permalink
Noticed you avoided the facts and did the old we gave each other pieces of paper proving i am right.
Don't care if you work for NASA. Still wrong and the facts prove it with true open investigation using the scientific method and not crazy theories which you cling to like a junky afraid to be exposed to the truth of his addiction. And like all junkies. You want company so you feed your bs on everywhere and call facts fiction and theories as facts. Always ignoring what does not fit your little world of bs.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 19:26Permalink
pigs tooth? burying the lead a little, for every species on earth there are a million extinct species that came before, did the great creator in their wisdom manage to fuck up that badly or is evolution a mindless, random system that produces what ever it can and what ever works sticks?
also yes nebraska man was taken out of textbooks (though I doubt it was featured in any) when scientific consensus determined it was a hoax. When was the bible last revised in the same way?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 20:11Permalink
I still have copies of my old texts with Nebraska man in it.
Same old story. Act like the scientific community didn't rally around Nebraska man as proof. It was inspected by experts from all over the world.
And it was not the biological community which exposed the fraud.
Notice that you no longer travel around hyping your finds after your many frauds have been proven.
It is just one example of the fraud.
Also this site has banned my post. Has to use another location.
What are you Aafraid of?
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 30 Aug 2011 - 20:20Permalink
Oh, that's an easy one. Most of the creationists I know believe in micro-evolution and claim that is how God wants it. They just disbelieve in MACRO-evolution - the idea that those small changes over time can lead to a change in species.
Submitted by Lord Kefka (not verified) on 27 Sep 2010 - 02:42Permalink
Thats a pretty glum view of the world isn't it? An Exam hall? Well exams can be fun. I used to go to college finals, write out my papers and then force down alot of whiskey so that I could look over everything in a second frame of mine. I graduated with honors.
Submitted by Lord Kefka (not verified) on 27 Sep 2010 - 02:27Permalink
I once beloved that the earth was round but, like all the rest of you, I soon discovered that it is all a strange conspiracy. Why would anyone want to lie to us about it?
All you have to do to prove that it is flat is go to a very high place, in my case Mount Olympus in Washington, and take an expensive telescope and look at the horizon. If it is a fantastically clear day you can see Japan, China, and all the little boats in between.
1 proof that the earth is truly flat: the moon. It never seems to rotate, because its flat too. In other words we only ever see ONE side of the moon. EXPLAIN THAT! And the shadow that makes it wax and wane? That is simply mold.
Another way to check to see if the earth is flat is just getting into an airplane and traveling to the edge of the world. I work for a fishing/salvage/waste disposal company and we go out there and cast nets to get some of the fish flopping over the edge. Its an incredibly profitable business but you need to have the right permits and clearance to do it.
What is gravity? Gravity is simply the pull of sin, toward hell. Have you ever noticed that newborn babies, who don't have sin to begin with besides original sin (and sometimes spicy nacho sin), float slightly off the ground? its true. Babies also have less friction. That is how Jesus could walk on water and why hell is subterranean.
Submitted by Uncle Samurai (not verified) on 26 Sep 2010 - 19:07Permalink
No, you aren't on the right thread. Mostly, this page is about ignorance of astronomy, not knowledge of it.
My guess at an answer would be no, because if it were true it would be an astonishing observation and there'd have been a big fuss about it. But as I don't have the facts to back it up, I can't be sure. Go ask an astronomer, not random idiots on the internet.
Submitted by Uncle Samurai (not verified) on 26 Sep 2010 - 19:07Permalink
No, you aren't on the right thread. Mostly, this page is about ignorance of astronomy, not knowledge of it.
My guess at an answer would be no, because if it were true it would be an astonishing observation and there'd have been a big fuss about it. But as I don't have the facts to back it up, I can't be sure. Go ask an astronomer, not random idiots on the internet.
Submitted by Uncle Samurai (not verified) on 26 Sep 2010 - 19:07Permalink
Satellites launched from our earth orbit our earth do they not?
All satellites must orbit the earth (else they fall into it or arc out into space)
If the earth was not rotating then geostationary satellites could not exist.
And yet ...
Geostationary satellites, launched from our planet exist do they not?
Therefore - the earth rotates.
L8rs
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 22 Sep 2010 - 12:20Permalink
Thanks for the handy link to your attractive and informative website. I am sure that given your comments above you are indeed one of the wisest men on earth, with access to truths hidden from the rest of us.
... or on the other hand you may be a bit of a twit.
These ROUND EARTHERS, i tell ya. The poor lot of them. Still thinking the Earth is Round. Or worse, that it ROTATES. Good lawd! lol!
I wonder if any of them realize that if the Earth was, indeed, Round and Rotating, you wouldnt have GRAVITY. You would have CENTRIFUGAL FORCE. Yet, you are told its Gravity that is in effect! Oh the Horror! Haaaa! Any simple Experiment will PROVE this. Or better yet, just go to the MOON! lol! Its (allegedly) ROUND and ROTATES--and yet, has (little) or NO Gravity. Yet, the EARTH which is allegedly doing the same thing is supposed to have Gravity? Hmmmm? I smell BAD science (as usual).
Indeed. The EARTH does NOT Rotate. If it does, STOP it so i can get off...lol!
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 22 Sep 2010 - 12:20Permalink
Thanks for the handy link to your attractive and informative website. I am sure that given your comments above you are indeed one of the wisest men on earth, with access to truths hidden from the rest of us.
... or on the other hand you may be a bit of a twit.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 22 Sep 2010 - 09:42Permalink
If everybody can just look at all these boats we have every day that are travelling around the Earth in a circle and getting back from just where they started, you can easily see that the Earth is round. Or you have to have an IQ under 50 to think otherwise
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 15 Sep 2010 - 15:54Permalink
I just want to add one thing about the comment somebody had on
Tue, 09/07/2010 - 11:06.
The comment was:-
"if the earth is flat//... when you are standing at a pier you should see a boat going ahead getting smaller, and as it gets farther it is still visible to our eyes.. but that did not happen
when we watch boats go ahead
it gets smaller as it gets farther but it looks like being swallowed by the sea...
it didn't remain visible to our eyes//
it means that the earth is round......."
The answer to this question is:-
Our eye sight has a limit because of which we can see things up to a limited distance.
If an object goes beyond that distance, either we can see converting it into a "very small point" or we cannot see that object at all.
For example,
1) If you fly a kite, initially we can its size as a square or quadrilateral. But, as it goes far and far in sky, we can only see a small "point", no shape.
2) A plane, when flying above your head in sky, you can see its shape clearly. But, as it goes far and far, you can only see converting it into a "small point" though the sky is clear and clouds are there. Even after some time, you cannot see the plane at all.
The same thing, happens in case of boat. Initially you can see the boat, as it goes long you can see a small point and then nothing. But, that doesn't prove that earth is round, because THE SAME BOAT/PLANE/KITE CAN BE SEEN BY A "BINOCULAR" OR ANY OTHER SUCH INSTRUMENT CLEARLY AND IN ITS ORIGINAL SHAPE.
IT DEPENDS ON POWER OF BINOCULAR HOW FAR YOU CAN SEE THAT BOAT.
If the earth is round, and if the boat cannot be seen because it has gone behind the "curve" of the round earth, then IT MUST NOT BE SEEN WITH BINOCULAR AS WELL.
Because, like our vision, the binocular's direction will also be went "Tangent" to that curve and will not see the boat.
Submitted by Kris (not verified) on 13 Sep 2010 - 08:25Permalink
Alfred, it was good fun..I'm sure that you know what shape the earth is and all about its rotation and other physics..You are just have a little fun at others expense ;-) bad boy..Just make sure you moderate any racist/religious remarks..All those great men turning in their graves..have fun..
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 08 Sep 2010 - 11:56Permalink
Thanks and glad you like the site. I too find the existence of flat-earthers these days a little strange, but at least their peculiar viewpoint is harmless compared to some others expressed in the comments.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 08 Sep 2010 - 08:22Permalink
Alfred,
Thank you so much for you site. It's absolutely incredible. I can't stop laughing.
But, it has a downside. I never thought there was so much ignorance in such primary subjects.
And, I for one, would never take a airplane build by globularists if I was a flat-earther. But, oddly, they do.
(sorry for the bad English - not my mother tongue)
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 08 Sep 2010 - 11:56Permalink
Thanks and glad you like the site. I too find the existence of flat-earthers these days a little strange, but at least their peculiar viewpoint is harmless compared to some others expressed in the comments.
Submitted by Timotheous (not verified) on 07 Sep 2010 - 12:23Permalink
earth moves..... if you think it's not then read this
we are human beings...,,,, if we observe things..,,, we should get used to all of the things around you....,,,, you have done that don't you?.... but you lack one thing..
you only focused of getting used on the things around you but didn't include yourself... you are a human being! humans have high sense of balance that's why we couldn't feel the earth's rotation.......
i know you guys believed a little science too... if not,, you will not comment proofs...
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 07 Sep 2010 - 12:06Permalink
you're wrong......... gravity really exist... even you argue about the earth's rotation the gravity can't be argued,, because gravity is a name of a force that pulls things down/ like when we jump we will land......
and also
this is a reply to the other comments,
the earth is not flat,,,
these theories would prove it:
if the earth is flat//... when you are standing at a pier you should see a boat going ahead getting smaller, and as it gets farther it is still visible to our eyes.. but that did not happen
when we watch boats go ahead
it gets smaller as it gets farther but it looks like being swallowed by the sea...
it didn't remain visible to our eyes//
it means that the earth is round.......
and if the earth is flat, if we travel why do earth has no end?
if we go west west and west we will be back to the place to where we started...
and if the earth is flat why can't we see other countries by watching on tallest buildings? .........
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 11 Aug 2010 - 08:01Permalink
I do not know if anyone mentioned this facts:
1. If you believe the Bible, Joshua did not command the earth to stand still. Think about it.
2. All satellite and rocket launches, their trajectories are figured on a fixed, stable earth platform...go figure.
3. There is a 'conspiracy' of nuts to change true science to make it fit their 'spiritual' paradigm.
Submitted by Ray (not verified) on 09 Aug 2010 - 06:51Permalink
Perhaps we should all verify science by personal experience. I reciently traveled to Alaska and can verify that the days are longer in Fairbanks during the summer months. This is because of the tilt of the Earth away from the Sun at the North Pole during the Summer months. As the Earth circumnavates the Sun to the other side of the Sun the Earths North Pole points the other direction and the Nights are long.
The facts of the solar system are very established. You can go to any obseritory and verify for yourself the system of the planets.
I wish every Muslim would do so and find out for themselves how out of touch their religion is with reality.
Not all scientists are Christian, But Christianity does not contradict Science.
The more we learn, the more we find out we don't know.
But the one thing I do know is that Muslims would do well to study Phisics and Astronomy.
Then they may become aware of the true nature of their religion.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 Aug 2011 - 20:00Permalink
The Earth DOES rotate, but only with mechanical assistance and under very specific circumstances.
I went to a fairground last week and boarded a device called a "carousel". I paid a little money, sat on a wooden horse and a man pulled a lever. The whole world began to rotate around me! If you felt a bit wobbly the other day, this probably explains it.
Though I do wonder whether it's wise that a machine of such power should be entrusted to some guy on a fairground?
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 28 Jul 2010 - 16:35Permalink
Thank you, Alfred, for that information about what we're told about the Earth spinning. However, it's still hard to believe sometimes. 1,000 mph is very fast. And centrifugal force usually spins things outwards, as it does in a cream separator.
Anyway...I'm sure I won't win this argument. But, as you can see by the comments on this web-page, not everyone thinks the same, whatever the topic happens to be.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 18 Jul 2010 - 15:47Permalink
How come we don't feel the earth moving at 1,000 mph? And what about the Southern Hemisphere? Shouldn't all of us here in Australia be upside down? I can assure you that we are definitely right side up. And...if a plane is travelling 500 mph from London to Australia, shouldn't the trip be cut in half if the Earth is travelling 1,000 mph in the other direction? For every 500 miles you travel forwards, the Earth should be rotating 500 towards the plane, so the plane would actually cover a distance of 1,000 miles per hour. And what about the clouds? Is gravity that strong that it can hold wispy clouds aloft in perfect form when the Earth is rotating at such a speed? If it's that powerful would it even let a plane fly in any direction at all? I don't think you've really thought about this too much. You just want to ridicule an opposing opinion without really delving into the possibility that you may be wrong. And when was the last time you saw any vision from space showing the Earth rotating? And where was the Earth in the sky when they supposedly landed on the Moon?
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 18 Jul 2010 - 15:47Permalink
You are right that the marble doesn't fly backwards, however, this is nothing to do with geosynchronicity. It's simply the case that the marble is already travelling with the same forward velocity as the plane when you toss it upwards. For it to fly backwards would require it to change its velocity in that direction, in other words to accelerate, which it won't do in the absence of any backward force acting on it.
If the plane speeds up while the marble is in the air, then it will appear to travel backwards but in fact it will be continuing its previous forward motion. Exactly the same effects can be observed in a moving car or train. The fact that the plane is flying far above the earth is irrelevant in this instance.
There are lots of online resources to basic physics if you want to understand this stuff better. Here's one: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Introduction_to_physics
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 11 Jul 2010 - 08:43Permalink
I have read several arguments on here, all of which sound convincing when presented. I almost bought into the idea that the earth actually does not rotate after reading these arguments. However, the one thing that stops me from being convinced is not my having been taught a different way growing up, but a thought that came to me while reading this page. Here is my thought. If I am in an airplane, and I toss a marble up into the air, the marble comes back down to my hand, it does not go flying backwards, being left behind by the plane hurtling forward at 500 to 600 mph (800 to 960 km/hr). It is because of things being geosynchronous. If someone has a counter argument to my idea, please tell me.
Submitted by Alfred Armstrong on 11 Jul 2010 - 13:17Permalink
You are right that the marble doesn't fly backwards, however, this is nothing to do with geosynchronicity. It's simply the case that the marble is already travelling with the same forward velocity as the plane when you toss it upwards. For it to fly backwards would require it to change its velocity in that direction, in other words to accelerate, which it won't do in the absence of any backward force acting on it.
If the plane speeds up while the marble is in the air, then it will appear to travel backwards but in fact it will be continuing its previous forward motion. Exactly the same effects can be observed in a moving car or train. The fact that the plane is flying far above the earth is irrelevant in this instance.
There are lots of online resources to basic physics if you want to understand this stuff better. Here's one: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Introduction_to_physics
Submitted by kerry (not verified) on 04 Jun 2010 - 05:11Permalink
I love it Alfred, it has been good reading, and makes you think, especially how the World sees all this so differently, very Enlightening, and I only came here doing a search on Google looking for why the Earth rotates, because for the first time in my life I though hey man what makes it spin. and I am 60years old been into everything, and love science and Science fiction, and any good story, have read all religions with an open heart, and still have love for my fellow man. Loved it man, great, keep it up.
the eath is round or we would
I didn't understand your
i dont like this guy a man
the earth spins you have day
Earth was flat said the greek
This is the funniest page I
I have a photocopy of this
Why should I answer anyone's
Why should I answer anyone's questions? I'm not here providing a public service.
When I don't know the answer to something, I do this thing called research. These days it's easier than it used to be, but I don't expect random strangers on the internet to give me all the answers, for nothing, without even the pretence of gratitude.
Unlike you, you [unnecessary insult written in heat of the moment removed].
Ta ta!
First of all you need to
If I remember my college
Look, if you have ever been
Thats your answer? I'm
Why should I answer anyone's
Why should I answer anyone's questions? I'm not here providing a public service.
When I don't know the answer to something, I do this thing called research. These days it's easier than it used to be, but I don't expect random strangers on the internet to give me all the answers, for nothing, without even the pretence of gratitude.
Unlike you, you [unnecessary insult written in heat of the moment removed].
Ta ta!
No, I don't think they are
Look, if you have ever been
Man, you are curious, aren't
Man, you are curious, aren't you? But also too lazy to look things up for yourself, I see,
Why do astronomers say that
If I remember my college
Man, you are curious, aren't
Man, you are curious, aren't you? But also too lazy to look things up for yourself, I see,
Simple observation will show
Simple observation will show that the stars do move in the sky, albeit slowly. This is one of the reasons we know that our planet is moving. They don't move quickly because they are a very, very long way away. When you are driving alongside distant hills, don't they seem to move much more slowly than nearby trees? That is the same phenomenon on a smaller scale.
No, I don't think they are
Look, if you have ever been
Hi. Sorry I'm not a flat
Simple observation will show
Simple observation will show that the stars do move in the sky, albeit slowly. This is one of the reasons we know that our planet is moving. They don't move quickly because they are a very, very long way away. When you are driving alongside distant hills, don't they seem to move much more slowly than nearby trees? That is the same phenomenon on a smaller scale.
No, I don't think they are
Look, if you have ever been
no comments.......... anybody
I am also in favor of flat
First of all you need to
To be honest this is probably
Thanks for your pointless and
Thanks for your pointless and doubly-wrong comment.
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Thanks for your pointless and
Thanks for your pointless and doubly-wrong comment.
I am very curious about how
Passing on traits is far from
Boy, aren't you clever.
Boy, aren't you clever. Cleverer for sure than all those people who study evolutionary biology for years, for example, who haven't spent any time at all considering such questions as these.
Read up on the subject with humility and an open mind. You might actually learn something.
Noticed you avoided the facts
What's wrong Alfred. Upset
pigs tooth? burying the lead
I still have copies of my old
People aren't afraid of you,
People aren't afraid of you, you wally, they just find you boring.
Again. No actual argument.
Oh, that's an easy one. Most
Thats a pretty glum view of
I once beloved that the earth
hahaha Thanks for an honest
No, you aren't on the right
No, you aren't on the right thread. Mostly, this page is about ignorance of astronomy, not knowledge of it.
My guess at an answer would be no, because if it were true it would be an astonishing observation and there'd have been a big fuss about it. But as I don't have the facts to back it up, I can't be sure. Go ask an astronomer, not random idiots on the internet.
hahaha Thanks for an honest
Oh good, I'm in the right
No, you aren't on the right
No, you aren't on the right thread. Mostly, this page is about ignorance of astronomy, not knowledge of it.
My guess at an answer would be no, because if it were true it would be an astonishing observation and there'd have been a big fuss about it. But as I don't have the facts to back it up, I can't be sure. Go ask an astronomer, not random idiots on the internet.
hahaha Thanks for an honest
Satellites launched from our
Thanks for the handy link to
Thanks for the handy link to your attractive and informative website. I am sure that given your comments above you are indeed one of the wisest men on earth, with access to truths hidden from the rest of us.
... or on the other hand you may be a bit of a twit.
These ROUND EARTHERS, i tell
Thanks for the handy link to
Thanks for the handy link to your attractive and informative website. I am sure that given your comments above you are indeed one of the wisest men on earth, with access to truths hidden from the rest of us.
... or on the other hand you may be a bit of a twit.
The SUN shifts its pattern.
If everybody can just look at
I just want to add one thing
Alfred, it was good fun..I'm
Thanks and glad you like the
Thanks and glad you like the site. I too find the existence of flat-earthers these days a little strange, but at least their peculiar viewpoint is harmless compared to some others expressed in the comments.
Alfred, Thank you so much for
Thanks and glad you like the
Thanks and glad you like the site. I too find the existence of flat-earthers these days a little strange, but at least their peculiar viewpoint is harmless compared to some others expressed in the comments.
earth moves..... if you
you're wrong.........
Earth does not
I do not know if anyone
Perhaps we should all verify
No nit a fact. If you moved
I can't believe in such a
I can't believe in such a thing. I went out into my garden this afternoon and demonstrated that it was impossible.
The Earth DOES rotate, but
I can't believe in such a
I can't believe in such a thing. I went out into my garden this afternoon and demonstrated that it was impossible.
Thank you, Alfred, for that
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http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/cosmic_kids/AskKids/earthmove.shtml
How come we don't feel the
http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltec
http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/cosmic_kids/AskKids/earthmove.shtml
if the earth rotates why do
You are right that the marble
You are right that the marble doesn't fly backwards, however, this is nothing to do with geosynchronicity. It's simply the case that the marble is already travelling with the same forward velocity as the plane when you toss it upwards. For it to fly backwards would require it to change its velocity in that direction, in other words to accelerate, which it won't do in the absence of any backward force acting on it.
If the plane speeds up while the marble is in the air, then it will appear to travel backwards but in fact it will be continuing its previous forward motion. Exactly the same effects can be observed in a moving car or train. The fact that the plane is flying far above the earth is irrelevant in this instance.
There are lots of online resources to basic physics if you want to understand this stuff better. Here's one: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Introduction_to_physics
I have read several arguments
You are right that the marble
You are right that the marble doesn't fly backwards, however, this is nothing to do with geosynchronicity. It's simply the case that the marble is already travelling with the same forward velocity as the plane when you toss it upwards. For it to fly backwards would require it to change its velocity in that direction, in other words to accelerate, which it won't do in the absence of any backward force acting on it.
If the plane speeds up while the marble is in the air, then it will appear to travel backwards but in fact it will be continuing its previous forward motion. Exactly the same effects can be observed in a moving car or train. The fact that the plane is flying far above the earth is irrelevant in this instance.
There are lots of online resources to basic physics if you want to understand this stuff better. Here's one: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Introduction_to_physics
I love it Alfred, it has been